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Post by clubeight on Jul 21, 2019 20:53:20 GMT 10
Hi guys I just want to clear up why the KVU girls left the comp it wasn’t because if became a 4team comp they definitely didn’t like the idea but decided to go with that decision, they had internal problems within the team that could not be resolved unfortunately this lead to the team withdrawing from the comp so to say that the girl cause the problem is unfair. To say div 2 was happy when the scores showed otherwise results like 15-0 9-0 when my opinion what should have happened was the 2 bottom team div 1 and the 2 top team from div 2 should have swapped and per the regrading process after 4 rounds like what happened in the men’s comp. As per the results to date in The AAL comp this outcome would have been possible anyway I wish all teams the best for this year and the future.
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Post by Raymond Reddington on Jul 22, 2019 8:29:20 GMT 10
Hi guys I just want to clear up why the KVU girls left the comp it wasn’t because if became a 4team comp they definitely didn’t like the idea but decided to go with that decision, they had internal problems within the team that could not be resolved unfortunately this lead to the team withdrawing from the comp so to say that the girl cause the problem is unfair. To say div 2 was happy when the scores showed otherwise results like 15-0 9-0 when my opinion what should have happened was the 2 bottom team div 1 and the 2 top team from div 2 should have swapped and per the regrading process after 4 rounds like what happened in the men’s comp. As per the results to date in The AAL comp this outcome would have been possible anyway I wish all teams the best for this year and the future. Of course the team is to blame, that had an internal problems as you stated. The buck stops with them. They all registered and agreed to play together and now there is an internal problem, so who’s fault is that, Santa Clause. Everybody wants to blame others and not themselves for their actions that impact on others. Bottom line, their problem, their fault.
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Post by clubeight on Jul 22, 2019 9:02:29 GMT 10
RR I definitely agree the players caused the team to fold but I still fine it hard to believe that the team is to blame for the current comp now my reasons are it should have stayed 6 team comp and if they pulled out it wouldn’t affected Div 2 and Div 1 could have continued with 5 teams we just always seem to have different rules for women to men it was ok for the 45s to go from 3 Divs to 2 when everyone complained about Div 1 not wanting to play with 5 teams so they made it a 2 comp Div but again apparently it would not have work for the ladies team as the association said they couldn’t support the competitive teams Div 1 we have to support the social teams div 2/3 and left it as a 4 team comp anyway just my opinion the association made the decision and yes everyone can do more to help try making the ladies comp better and especially the players have to do they part as well to support all players that registered to play to keep them coming back each year
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Post by Raymond Reddington on Jul 22, 2019 17:27:07 GMT 10
The demise of any competition rests solely with the administration and nobody else. It’s not rocket science, one of the AA1 Women’s teams from Winston Hills is off playing elsewhere because of exactly what’s gone on.
W Hills have been part of the NWSWF competitions for 3 at least I think so the problem is a new one.
It’s one people hoped would go away but hasn’t.
Those people are the problem.
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Post by ange on Jul 22, 2019 17:42:42 GMT 10
RR I definitely agree the players caused the team to fold but I still fine it hard to believe that the team is to blame for the current comp now my reasons are it should have stayed 6 team comp and if they pulled out it wouldn’t affected Div 2 and Div 1 could have continued with 5 teams we just always seem to have different rules for women to men it was ok for the 45s to go from 3 Divs to 2 when everyone complained about Div 1 not wanting to play with 5 teams so they made it a 2 comp Div but again apparently it would not have work for the ladies team as the association said they couldn’t support the competitive teams Div 1 we have to support the social teams div 2/3 and left it as a 4 team comp anyway just my opinion the association made the decision and yes everyone can do more to help try making the ladies comp better and especially the players have to do they part as well to support all players that registered to play to keep them coming back each year Whilst you don't need to put every sentence on a new line (thanks raymond), a bit of punctuation would make your posts more readable.
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Post by stan on Jul 23, 2019 5:31:35 GMT 10
well there are a number of problems with in the Hills and its clear to most were they stem from.... you just need to go to a club meeting and listen to A club tell everyone that they are the best and we did this and I did that. This once mighty club has fallen in to the hands of Idiots. oh well upwards and onwards
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Post by guest2 on Jul 26, 2019 11:24:32 GMT 10
Just recognise that going alone for the girls and ladies was a bridge too far and apply to join the Phoenix League and it will solve all of our problems. I have a daughter playing over there and the comp is fantastic, played on great fields, well organised and super competitive. Sure a bit of extra travel but that has never been as issue for the girls anyway as they never used to play a home and away league. Having Division 1 teams playing Div 1 teams every week and just as important Div 4 teams playing Div 4 teams every week and problem solved. Leave the 35s as Hills stand alone if they do not want to travel in Friday night traffic. It is such an easy solution it amazes me that aside from ego why it wouldn't of already happened. If it does not happen next season then there will be no girls left to worry about the following season.
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Post by ranger on Jul 26, 2019 14:44:20 GMT 10
Just recognise that going alone for the girls and ladies was a bridge too far and apply to join the Phoenix League and it will solve all of our problems. I have a daughter playing over there and the comp is fantastic, played on great fields, well organised and super competitive. Sure a bit of extra travel but that has never been as issue for the girls anyway as they never used to play a home and away league. Having Division 1 teams playing Div 1 teams every week and just as important Div 4 teams playing Div 4 teams every week and problem solved. Leave the 35s as Hills stand alone if they do not want to travel in Friday night traffic. It is such an easy solution it amazes me that aside from ego why it wouldn't of already happened. If it does not happen next season then there will be no girls left to worry about the following season.
Or another suggestion - along with the 3 existing Div 1 teams, bring back Winston Hills from NWSWF, get the split Kellyville Utd team to form two teams in different clubs and with the addition of the GCL girls that are turning 18 and can no longer play in GCL. That way you have 6 teams in Div 1 next year and the ex-Kellyville Utd derby should be a cracker. Having a couple of local ex-WNPL players to join some of the other clubs (not the existing 3 clubs in Div 1) and you then have quality across the whole division.
The issue of quality in div1 is across AA, O/35, O/45 in both men's and women's leagues in most associations. There are also some other implications such as champions of champions competitions should the leagues merge. I am not sure that some teams would be willing to give up a CoC spot.
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Post by ange on Jul 26, 2019 15:48:28 GMT 10
Just recognise that going alone for the girls and ladies was a bridge too far and apply to join the Phoenix League and it will solve all of our problems. I have a daughter playing over there and the comp is fantastic, played on great fields, well organised and super competitive. Sure a bit of extra travel but that has never been as issue for the girls anyway as they never used to play a home and away league. Having Division 1 teams playing Div 1 teams every week and just as important Div 4 teams playing Div 4 teams every week and problem solved. Leave the 35s as Hills stand alone if they do not want to travel in Friday night traffic. It is such an easy solution it amazes me that aside from ego why it wouldn't of already happened. If it does not happen next season then there will be no girls left to worry about the following season.
Or another suggestion - along with the 3 existing Div 1 teams, bring back Winston Hills from NWSWF, get the split Kellyville Utd team to form two teams in different clubs and with the addition of the GCL girls that are turning 18 and can no longer play in GCL. That way you have 6 teams in Div 1 next year and the ex-Kellyville Utd derby should be a cracker. Having a couple of local ex-WNPL players to join some of the other clubs (not the existing 3 clubs in Div 1) and you then have quality across the whole division.
The issue of quality in div1 is across AA, O/35, O/45 in both men's and women's leagues in most associations. There are also some other implications such as champions of champions competitions should the leagues merge. I am not sure that some teams would be willing to give up a CoC spot.
Cannot see it happening. Why would the Winston Hills team which is enjoying playing in a great competition come back to the Hills to a failed comp... if they were pushed to rejoin they would just change to another club from that district. There will be about 8 girls from GCL who would be turning 18... so well short of a team and they aren't actually close to the standard of the other division 1 teams. Other existing teams are splintering and looking for options in other associations because of the farce of this year. Combine or they'll all be gone.
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Post by ranger on Jul 26, 2019 16:35:37 GMT 10
Or another suggestion - along with the 3 existing Div 1 teams, bring back Winston Hills from NWSWF, get the split Kellyville Utd team to form two teams in different clubs and with the addition of the GCL girls that are turning 18 and can no longer play in GCL. That way you have 6 teams in Div 1 next year and the ex-Kellyville Utd derby should be a cracker. Having a couple of local ex-WNPL players to join some of the other clubs (not the existing 3 clubs in Div 1) and you then have quality across the whole division.
The issue of quality in div1 is across AA, O/35, O/45 in both men's and women's leagues in most associations. There are also some other implications such as champions of champions competitions should the leagues merge. I am not sure that some teams would be willing to give up a CoC spot.
Cannot see it happening. Why would the Winston Hills team which is enjoying playing in a great competition come back to the Hills to a failed comp... if they were pushed to rejoin they would just change to another club from that district. There will be about 8 girls from GCL who would be turning 18... so well short of a team and they aren't actually close to the standard of the other division 1 teams. Other existing teams are splintering and looking for options in other associations because of the farce of this year. Combine or they'll all be gone. My suggestion was just one option to move forward and look for ways to stay in the hills association. I suggested Winston Hills as they are coming 3rd in NWSWF and if the other 3 teams are close enough to Winston Hills then you have a base of 4 teams providing good competition week in week out. Add in another 2 okay teams and you then have a much better situation than this year. Then use that to build on for the year after to aim for 8 teams.
I guess I find it strange that it is the Phoenix league that is being mentioned rather than NWSWF but it sounds as though the teams have already decided.
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Post by ange on Jul 27, 2019 9:53:36 GMT 10
The thing we are assuming here is that these other leagues will take us. Given the acrimony with Granville from a few years back they may not be keen and North West Womens has just amalgamated with Gladesville-Hornsby, they might be busy enough with their own problems before solving ours.
That said, we should try.
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Post by bombagol on Jul 27, 2019 23:18:05 GMT 10
RR I definitely agree the players caused the team to fold but I still fine it hard to believe that the team is to blame for the current comp now my reasons are it should have stayed 6 team comp and if they pulled out it wouldn’t affected Div 2 and Div 1 could have continued with 5 teams we just always seem to have different rules for women to men it was ok for the 45s to go from 3 Divs to 2 when everyone complained about Div 1 not wanting to play with 5 teams so they made it a 2 comp Div but again apparently it would not have work for the ladies team as the association said they couldn’t support the competitive teams Div 1 we have to support the social teams div 2/3 and left it as a 4 team comp anyway just my opinion the association made the decision and yes everyone can do more to help try making the ladies comp better and especially the players have to do they part as well to support all players that registered to play to keep them coming back each year Don't be afraid of using punctuation marks.
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Post by clubeight on Jul 28, 2019 17:13:59 GMT 10
Hey guys, Stop worrying about me and my lack punctuation. You should try to put your energy into helping the women’s comp, if you have no interest in that stay off this thread!!
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Post by ange on Jul 28, 2019 17:16:09 GMT 10
Hey guys, Stop worrying about me and my lack punctuation. You should try to put your energy into helping the women’s comp, if you have no interest in that stay off this thread!! It worked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 17:40:34 GMT 10
There use to be a forum member called "apostrophe man" who was a stickler for all things grammatical. The punctuation superhero !! Where is he when you need him ? 🤣
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