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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 19:15:27 GMT 10
Football NSW’s position on Private Academies
The sport of Football is delivered in many formats across a range of platforms
and by many different people and organisations.
In line with Football Federation Australia’s (FFA) National Curriculum and the generally recognised
structure of the Australian football system, Football NSW believes that the key delivery of football
for young players is via their local club. It is the club that should provide the expertise and volume
of a player’s training and the competitive environment within which to develop.
In line with the National Curriculum, which stipulates the various phases of development consistent
with a young player’s age, a minimum training workload of three sessions throughout the week is
advised. Players seeking more development opportunities in terms of training contacts would be
advised to perform due diligence on any provider before they commit to any extra training
opportunities.
A good club environment developed and overseen by an experienced and appropriately accredited
Technical Director is the key requisite. This Technical Director will appoint and support accredited
and trained coaches in each of the age groups, assist them with developing an annual youth
development plan, organise trials and grading and oversee properly conducted training sessions
and competitive games in the requisite leagues. The Technical Department of Football NSW can
assist with the various coaching courses that are conducted throughout the year both at the
Community and Advanced level.
At present, Football NSW does not accredit or oversee any private academies and can therefore not
endorse them. Football NSW currently has regulations in place governing the participation of
grassroots football clubs with private academy affiliations/connections in its State Cup and
Champion of Champions tournaments. Similar regulations also apply to clubs participating in
Football NSW Competitions.
In light of the above, Football NSW advises families and players to be cognisant of the perceived
value of private academies, particularly those purporting to be in connection or partnership with
professional football clubs and or agents/football tour operators.
Stuart Hodge
Chief Executive Officer
24 August 2017
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Post by joka72 on Aug 24, 2017 20:17:48 GMT 10
The truth is that the academy based teams are about junior development and not winning comps. This can be demonstrated by the fact that finals are not dominated by academy teams. If parents are prepared to pay the money for quality coaching they should be allowed to. This is big brother being pissed off about not being able to take a cut, even though they are happy to take the rego payments. The academies have their place and undoubtedly grow the player skill base. Not letting the kids that train in these teams participate in a competition which is what I understand this is leading to is complete BS.
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Post by fjspecial on Aug 24, 2017 21:10:41 GMT 10
Can someone from HFA explain why they are introducing bylaw 2.2. Has someone at FNSW asked them to do this? What is their reason for doing this? Is there a link between admitting HFA into FNSW and introducing this bylaw? How does HFA expect to administer the bylaw?
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Post by Leftfly on Aug 24, 2017 21:44:27 GMT 10
Tell em the price son
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Post by ASR on Aug 24, 2017 23:44:28 GMT 10
Why is it banned?? Because the grubs at ASR and ASA are charging little johny $3000 a year for this "development". Oh, and if your a player at either Hills Knights or Rockets you can't play in the div 1 team unless you fork out the cash. If anyone thinks this is morally right then you are brain dead. I wonder how many kick backs those running these clubs are getting?
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Post by fjspecial on Aug 25, 2017 6:47:04 GMT 10
The key reason this setup is in place at these smaller clubs is to attract and retain div 1 players. What the small clubs found was that as soon as they developed a div 1 player, they would leave to one of the "super" clubs that have access to 4 or 5 fields and a corresponding large number of teams and so have an advantage over everyone else. Parents are happy to pay fees, it's actually excellent value for time spent and service delivered. Families that cannot afford are offered scholarships. There are no kickbacks. The club prospers due to increased playing standard, and is able to retain juniors developed through their kick start program. Overall the association and other clubs benefit from improved standards as well.
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Post by Cold Night on Aug 25, 2017 11:18:38 GMT 10
Why is it banned?? Because the grubs at ASR and ASA are charging little johny $3000 a year for this "development". Oh, and if your a player at either Hills Knights or Rockets you can't play in the div 1 team unless you fork out the cash. If anyone thinks this is morally right then you are brain dead. I wonder how many kick backs those running these clubs are getting? Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story will you! FACT - you can play at the Knights & Rockets in Div 1 if you are not part of ASR & ASA FACT - there is nothing morally wrong with parents choosing to enrol kids in football tuition and paying what they think is fair FACT - Knights & Rockets don't get any kick backs And while we are at it... FACT - There are at least 2 other clubs in HFI with academy teams outside the Knights & Rockets FACT - There are teams in the competition that externally pay coaches outside the FNSW tournament guidelines that should not be eligible for CoC & State Cup You are the grub hiding behind an anonymous post spewing this crap.
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Post by nolongerakeeper on Aug 25, 2017 12:22:42 GMT 10
Why is it banned?? Because the grubs at ASR and ASA are charging little johny $3000 a year for this "development". Oh, and if your a player at either Hills Knights or Rockets you can't play in the div 1 team unless you fork out the cash. If anyone thinks this is morally right then you are brain dead. I wonder how many kick backs those running these clubs are getting? Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story will you! FACT - you can play at the Knights & Rockets in Div 1 if you are not part of ASR & ASA FACT - there is nothing morally wrong with parents choosing to enrol kids in football tuition and paying what they think is fair FACT - Knights & Rockets don't get any kick backs And while we are at it... FACT - There are at least 2 other clubs in HFI with academy teams outside the Knights & Rockets FACT - There are teams in the competition that externally pay coaches outside the FNSW tournament guidelines that should not be eligible for CoC & State Cup You are the grub hiding behind an anonymous post spewing this crap. That's Interesting who are the 2 other clubs and what teams - genuinely interested to know.
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Post by The Weeknd on Aug 25, 2017 13:46:10 GMT 10
The 'development' aspect puzzles me. Development towards what exactly? The A league, The Socceroos, the Premier League? The way i see it if 11-15 year olds aren't already in the Premier Youth League system then there chances of having a career in soccer are very slim. This is association park football, not an elite competition, and academies are completely unnecessary. However we do live in a free country and if clubs/parents want it then i guess they should get it. Cant it be something done for those that want it, like a tutor? set it up outside the teams regular training nights for those that want it.
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Post by nolongerakeeper on Aug 25, 2017 16:12:35 GMT 10
The 'development' aspect puzzles me. Development towards what exactly? The A league, The Socceroos, the Premier League? The way i see it if 11-15 year olds aren't already in the Premier Youth League system then there chances of having a career in soccer are very slim. This is association park football, not an elite competition, and academies are completely unnecessary. However we do live in a free country and if clubs/parents want it then i guess they should get it. Cant it be something done for those that want it, like a tutor? set it up outside the teams regular training nights for those that want it. I tend to agree Kasabian, but no harm done if they wish to join academies even though it is purely to improve your football skills in order to reach higher levels of Association football and potentially get to Premier Youth league level, but unlikely it would go beyond that. I do feel sorry though for teams that are not academies but linked to clubs who have academies being excluded from FNSW competitions. I think I saw/read that a u21 side qualified but was ineligible as the club had an Academy affiliation. Is that the case all the way up to Premier league. O35's and 045's? I wonder if teams that play for these clubs are aware of this before they join a club?
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Post by ASR on Aug 25, 2017 21:54:42 GMT 10
I'd love to look at both ASRs books, Knights books, potentially some individuals books to see where all of this money is going....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 22:14:27 GMT 10
I'd love to look at both ASRs books, Knights books, potentially some individuals books to see where all of this money is going.... Sounds like you may have an aptitude to become an auditor.
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Post by ASR on Aug 25, 2017 22:51:43 GMT 10
No chance of me becoming an auditor. However I'm more than happy to foot the bill for one.
Common ASR, hills Knights and co, show us where all this money is going. Is it going back into the game? Or is it going straight into your back pockets???
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Post by Oake on Aug 26, 2017 7:09:19 GMT 10
The Knights are a non profit like every other club here, and their books are open annually, like every other club here. If you had ever contributed at a club AGM you'd know that instead of spewing this rubbish here.
ASR is a private business, and aren't required to open their books to anyone.
In fact, I heard YOU are profiting from something, because my tiny mind decided it was easier to come up with a ridiculous conspiracy than actually try to help, so I demand that I be allowed to look at your books. 'Come on' let me look at your books!
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Post by Col Trickle on Nov 21, 2017 14:21:28 GMT 10
Any news on where this is at? Last I heard, 12 or 13 clubs had voted for a new bylaw and it had been accepted by HFI.
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