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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 11:43:16 GMT 10
There seems to be far more discussion on Hills Football Facebook regarding the formation of this new club than there is here on the Forum. Do Forum members have an opinion about the formation of this new club or they just don't care ? Seems like an important new development for the Hills. What impacts will it have moving forward ?
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Post by mj on Oct 23, 2022 10:20:47 GMT 10
There seems to be far more discussion on Hills Football Facebook regarding the formation of this new club than there is here on the Forum. Do Forum members have an opinion about the formation of this new club or they just don't care ? Seems like an important new development for the Hills. What impacts will it have moving forward ? Not a fan of a new club for these fields as it will hobble growth of existing clubs in this area. It also perpetuates the dominance of the super clubs who like having higher player numbers, and therefore a deeper talent pool, at the disadvantage of others. Suspect the Directors who all come from one club are supportive of this so they keep player numbers down for their competition.
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Post by baulkokid on Oct 30, 2022 12:58:16 GMT 10
Looks likely there will be an over 55 comp next year. Over 45 will become 3 divs and 1 O/55 div, Baulko will have one possibly two teams. Play Saturday arvo or Sunday morning, maybe allow 3 under age players 52yo, age increasing each year for 3 years. Still 11 v 11 and 80 mins.
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Post by The Weeknd on Oct 31, 2022 8:24:30 GMT 10
noticed a post has been deleted about o55s... are we allowed to speak freely on here or not? there seems to be a demand for an o55 comp, 11v11 played on a Sat afternoon... why isn't it being supported by HFA and the competitions sub-committee? why can't we start the same way O35s and O45s started? ie you allow 3 aged between 50-54 and the rest O55 for the first few seasons to help teams transition? I don't believe it will decimate O45s, this is an extremely narrow-minded view, O45s is growing year on year, having an O55s will actually keep guys in the game longer and expand the o45&55s as a whole. I know a lot of guys that retire at 60, I'm sure having an O55s will keep them in the game longer, to 65 or 70. Why wouldn't you want expanded participation and guys staying physically fit and active into their late 60s as an outcome? Why the resistance from HFA?
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Post by Birkenhead on Oct 31, 2022 16:46:26 GMT 10
you're making too much sense
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 20:22:11 GMT 10
noticed a post has been deleted about o55s... are we allowed to speak freely on here or not? there seems to be a demand for an o55 comp, 11v11 played on a Sat afternoon... why isn't it being supported by HFA and the competitions sub-committee? why can't we start the same way O35s and O45s started? ie you allow 3 aged between 50-54 and the rest O55 for the first few seasons to help teams transition? I don't believe it will decimate O45s, this is an extremely narrow-minded view, O45s is growing year on year, having an O55s will actually keep guys in the game longer and expand the o45&55s as a whole. I know a lot of guys that retire at 60, I'm sure having an O55s will keep them in the game longer, to 65 or 70. Why wouldn't you want expanded participation and guys staying physically fit and active into their late 60s as outcome? Why the resistance from HFA? I think you will find that the post was temporarily removed in order to allow for the forum member to edit it to conform to Forum Rules. This was not an attempt to censore the subject matter.
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Post by baulkokid on Nov 4, 2022 12:12:21 GMT 10
The post just asked why is a 7 v 7 mid week night format being pushed by certain people when it is obvious that 85% of players over 55 want 11 v 11 O/55 on the weekend. Don't we get a say in what we want and not just take what someone else wants to push. Put out a survey and ask every over 55 what they want. The reason this wont happen is they know what the result will be 11 v 11 O/55 on the weekend. And that is not what Hills want or certain people at least.
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Post by The Weeknd on Nov 4, 2022 12:38:52 GMT 10
The post just asked why is a 7 v 7 mid week night format being pushed by certain people when it is obvious that 85% of players over 55 want 11 v 11 O/55 on the weekend. Don't we get a say in what we want and not just take what someone else wants to push. Put out a survey and ask every over 55 what they want. The reason this wont happen is they know what the result will be 11 v 11 O/55 on the weekend. And that is not what Hills want or certain people at least. HFA (& certain clubs) made the same mistake with the finals format this year... they just decided on a 1 week finals format without consulting players & coaches at all... there was uproar and common sense prevailed. Looks like they still want to make decisions without consulting players. Frustrating.
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Post by blahblah on Nov 7, 2022 10:33:54 GMT 10
I think its more a from little things big things grow approach, try the 7 vs 7 and see how many people commit. At worst, they will then have a core group of people that can give some ideas to numbers.
Imagine if they just went full 11 vs 11 on a Saturday and had to fold the comp half way through the season due to lack of numbers / teams / injuries etc... then everyone would be complaining about that. Can't win either way.
And it shouldn't be coming from individual players, it should be coming from clubs, i.e. get your club on board with a team ready to go (not just one or two players trying to push a sub-committee / HFA to do it) and then have the club push the sub-committee (of which they should be a part). I presume that each of the clubs in the sub-committee (which I also presume any club can join - its not exclusive) will not be keen to suggest a change if they aren't getting any push from their players.
If your club is putting in for you go to a club that will - but then again if none of the clubs are pushing it then most likely it is because there aren't enough players pushing the club.
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Post by sweeper on Nov 8, 2022 10:45:45 GMT 10
Hills Football should already have a good idea about numbers based on this year's registrations as they would have everyone's DOB.
For an 8 team comp you would need between 140 and 150 registered O/55 players.
Do any of the surrounding associations have O/55 comps ?
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Post by blahblah on Nov 8, 2022 18:25:21 GMT 10
Thats assuming every o55 wants to play in a brand new division in most likely a brand new team i.e. our now O35 team has one player that is 5 years younger than the youngest of us, so we waited till over half our team were in our 40s before we moved to O35 from all age. We wont be moving to O45 until half of us are all 50+ and if you consider above, we would have 4 players eligible to play O55 the first (and following 4 years, with numbers growing) that would stay in O45 to keep playing as a team.
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Post by sweeper on Nov 10, 2022 9:23:01 GMT 10
Teams that have stayed together for a while would have faced similar issues in going to O35 and O45 as they would face in going to O55.
There are likely to be teams in O45/3 and O45/4 where a majority, if not most players, are O55. Really comes down to who stays and who comes back for next year however knowing that there will be an O55 comp next year may encourage some to keep playing who may otherwise have not come back next year.
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Post by The Weeknd on Jan 9, 2023 15:18:52 GMT 10
will the senior mens comp start april 1st?
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Post by HappyFeet on Feb 4, 2023 19:51:55 GMT 10
Have not been looking for them but noticed this afternoon when searching for some coaching material that the Bylaws have been updated for season 2023. A couple of key changes is the introduction of Masters Football for Women over 45 years of age and Men over 55 years of age played on Tuesday and Wednesday nights respectively, half field 7v7 format with free dual registration if registered in an O30, O35 or O45 competition. Also the introduction of a joint association womens premier league competition if clubs approve.
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Post by krusty on Mar 6, 2023 14:03:48 GMT 10
Will grading be released to clubs soon?
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