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Post by Need more refs on Jul 10, 2017 14:44:50 GMT 10
Would just like to highlight the fact that out of our last 3 games, the two away games where we had fill in referees (not officials), the refs were so bias it is becoming almost impossible to get an away win if you don't have an official ref. Just thought I would bring this to the attention of the powers to be. The ref we had on the weekend, who was an injured player from the other team, had very little control of the game, pretty much right from the start and hardly ever penalised their team for anything, when they would penalise my team for the exactly the same things. Not good enough!
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Post by fisho1984 on Jul 10, 2017 15:19:51 GMT 10
if you have a problem like this you should put your hand u and ref the game. we have had a few games were we have had no refs we had to do it. you will always get calls against you in games and in others it will be the other way around. in our game we had four penalties against us and two of them were not penalties but I am not sooking about that we just take it as it comes and play the game.
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Post by blahblah on Jul 10, 2017 16:09:01 GMT 10
Hahahahahaha one happy sausage to one unhappy sausage
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Post by Become a ref then on Jul 10, 2017 18:04:40 GMT 10
Need more refs. You answered your own question.
We do need more refs (myself and my son both are). Why don't you and a couple of your team mates put your hand up. Get a few extra dollars on a Saturday
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Post by Tempted on Jul 10, 2017 18:54:48 GMT 10
Pathetic how an official referee can not be provided for all games, the association needs to address this issues otherwise players and parents may be turned away due to this and move to a different association.
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Post by baulkokid on Jul 10, 2017 19:10:01 GMT 10
Pathetic how an official referee can not be provided for all games, the association needs to address this issues otherwise players and parents may be turned away due to this and move to a different association. How does the association address this, oh yes make it compulsory that every team has a registered reff who reffs the game before or the game after there own game, not reff there own game.
This would mean every game would have 2 reffs to reff the game before or after there game. How simple is that, problem solved. Oh what did I hear, "we need reffs but I don't want to do it !!!! Its the associations problem" .
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Post by 2in10ce on Jul 10, 2017 19:12:11 GMT 10
You have to look at how the refs are allocated. I have spoken to a few refs where they have been allocated at 1 ground for 10 oclock game then the next game they have is at a park on the other side of the association. Why not keep them at the same ground. Seems to me the people in charge have an ego and dont want to use people who have experience and done the allocations before.
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Post by baulkokid on Jul 10, 2017 19:15:49 GMT 10
I reff, I coach, I play, I have my own business & I have a wife that complains ever football season. If I can do it any one can. so don't whinge If you & your team mates don't want to reff.
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Post by backpage on Jul 11, 2017 10:34:25 GMT 10
Pathetic how an official referee can not be provided for all games, the association needs to address this issues otherwise players and parents may be turned away due to this and move to a different association. How does the association address this, oh yes make it compulsory that every team has a registered reff who reffs the game before or the game after there own game, not reff there own game.
This would mean every game would have 2 reffs to reff the game before or after there game. How simple is that, problem solved. Oh what did I hear, "we need reffs but I don't want to do it !!!! Its the associations problem" . Well said baulkokid. Another avenue to encourage and build a strong contingent of referees is with the juniors. Get kids that are 2 or 3 years above the age group of the game to start as ARs. For example, a 14 year old to assist as AR for U12 games with a more experience centre ref. With a couple of seasons under their belt, they will graduate to be the centre ref.
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Post by getthatindia on Jul 11, 2017 16:49:30 GMT 10
Well I don't think age makes any difference, most of the linesmen and women we've had this year wouldn't be old enough to get a start at Maccas
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Post by fisho1984 on Jul 12, 2017 15:48:07 GMT 10
So.... What is the Min age for an AR?? I say get them in as soon as they can. teach them the rules young and get the experience up
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Post by RedCard on Jul 12, 2017 15:57:32 GMT 10
Tempted - There are 11,500 players and approx. over 210 games every weekend and we have about 200 referees of which only about 150-160 are active. The coverage of referees is currently around 82%. I am not sure of other associations as I am not privy to their information, however an overall percentage of 82% is a good starting point for season 1. If you want to compare last year there were about 160 referees of which around 130 were active and playing stocks were around the 7,500 mark. So if my maths is correct, players went up by 35% (or there abouts) and referees went up by 20% (or there abouts)... More senior referees are required going forward...
2in10ce - The association is listening and the competitions department are currently working with the referees appointments to get more coverage and to get referees to stay at the same ground (if possible). It isn't an ego thing and changes are being considered all around to get better coverage and provide referees with better appointments...
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Post by blahblah on Jul 12, 2017 16:36:19 GMT 10
2in10ce - The association is listening and the competitions department are currently working with the referees appointments to get more coverage and to get referees to stay at the same ground (if possible). It isn't an ego thing and changes are being considered all around to get better coverage and provide referees with better appointments... This a double edged sword. Lets hypothesise: Lets say you play in an O35 team around 3pm and one of your team mates is an official referee. He is called Joachim Aloof Goalsmasher. Mr Goalsmasher is happy to ref before and after his game because he is a good bloke. If he refs the game before at 1pm and the 5pm afterwards, then the refs association has to send another ref from another ground to ref the game he is playing in at 3pm (if there are no senior refs in the other games before / after). For just one game. With senior refs who also play (which I am sure is the majority) it creates this allocation problem. Not saying its their fault, just pointing out why refs get sent from one ground to another for individual games. Because of people like Joachim. Used to happen in Granville all the time. We would hardly ever get a ref because the ref that had been reffing the games at the ground before us all afternoon would need to play at 3pm. If they had any senior refs that didnt play then they would leave them at the same ground all day but importantly leave them at a ground where there is no overlap with a senior ref who can ref early in the day but not later (and not move them from one ground to just go do one game at 3pm somewhere else) Ground 1 - Games at 11am / 1pm / 3pm - Ref who doesn't play can do all three Ground 2 - Games at 11am / 1pm / Needs to play at 3pm - Ref who does play can only do 2 games
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Post by baulkokid on Jul 12, 2017 22:48:13 GMT 10
Blahbla, your talking 3 games 1pm, 3pm & 5pm that's 6 teams, compulsory every team has a reff, that's 6 reffs to do 3 games & compulsory every junior team has 2 reffs, there is the AR's as well.
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Post by oldnwise on Jul 13, 2017 15:03:41 GMT 10
So.... What is the Min age for an AR?? I say get them in as soon as they can. teach them the rules young and get the experience up 13 is minimum age to sit the Referee level 4 course. This covers both AR and refereeing age groups from U12 and up. There is already a development path for juniors under age of 13 to build up their refereeing skills in the association based program for mini roos. A number of the referees who sat the level 4 course this year came through the mini roos program from previous years.
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