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Post by dreamgoal on Jun 18, 2019 11:50:19 GMT 10
they have been there since day 1 as they are just to good for any team in the hills If they had stayed and being too good was always going to be the case, they may have split that team for the future of a AAL1 competition. The NWSWFA AA1 ladies only has 6 teams anyway and one is Winston Hills. They by the looks of it have their own share of problems with numbers. They were too strong a few years ago and would be competitive in the current competition, I think it’s time to come home and strengthen the Hills as part of a broader strategy!!
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Post by Raymond Reddington on Jun 18, 2019 12:10:03 GMT 10
If they had stayed and being too good was always going to be the case, they may have split that team for the future of a AAL1 competition. The NWSWFA AA1 ladies only has 6 teams anyway and one is Winston Hills. They by the looks of it have their own share of problems with numbers. They were too strong a few years ago and would be competitive in the current competition, I think it’s time to come home and strengthen the Hills as part of a broader strategy!! Fair call.
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Post by thefootballbandit on Jun 18, 2019 14:06:03 GMT 10
My wife who plays in the 35s was sent an email and a survey. Looks as though Hills are listening and are looking to create a strategy based off what the players want
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Post by stan on Jun 19, 2019 6:11:53 GMT 10
TOO LATE. I guess we are the victims or being young and the girls have suffered
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Post by hooroo on Jun 19, 2019 7:38:38 GMT 10
Agree with FB Bandit, good to see they are asking the players. Stan may also be correct, One club is looking to play their girls elsewhere next season, so it may be too late. Tough to get them back if that's the case.
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Post by thefootballbandit on Jun 19, 2019 8:41:10 GMT 10
I do watch a lot of female football. I’m not too sure what else Hills could have done. There’s more than enough teams. The issue is the quality. The gap between top and bottom is huge. A couple of clubs are only about winning, most are only about having a run. Reminds me of the 45s. Is it a coincidence the two clubs who are the issue in the 45s are the same issue in ladies div 1??
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Post by interested on Jun 19, 2019 8:43:52 GMT 10
Unfortunately it was going to always be an uphill battle to get the girls going from the start. When Hills broke away there were certain forces at play that had no interest in the girls comps. They even made statements to FNSW at initial meetings that Ladies Comps were not a concern and would look after themselves later on. They couldn't see that the majority of players came from Granville clubs and that the split would decimate player numbers. whilst the split has worked very well for Mens/Mixed comps the girls have continued to decline. It is even worse with the ridiculous Conference League this year sapping more players form Clubland.
If Hills have any interest in Girls/Ladies comps moving forward they need to bury the hatchet and merge with Blacktown/Granville Phoenix League and move on. This is a big IF as not sure there is any focus from the Hills Board on Ladies Football at all. I could me mistaken
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Post by esky0 on Jun 19, 2019 10:16:50 GMT 10
I would have thought the smart move would be to merge with NWSWFA hopefully the travel time wont be a problem.
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Post by interested on Jun 19, 2019 15:10:55 GMT 10
Esky I know travel was always at the forefront of the move away from Granville but if the merge is with the Phoenix league that shouldn't be too much of an issue. Most teams will play half there games in the Hills area and generally the rest very close to the Border. This is the case with the Phoenix already and travel hasn't been an issue.
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Post by HappyFeet on Jun 19, 2019 21:04:51 GMT 10
Whilst I sort of agree with Esky in part, I reckon the association is better off trying to make a go of it for themselves with the females. There was a very good FFA document that used to be available on the Hills Football website and FNSW and FFA websites that our clubs used and was called "Women's Football Development Guide by FFA". This document provided an extensive study by FFA of the why, what and how female football ticked and what was required to make female football successful. Any other surveys, suggestions by others would mean they are not familiar with the FFA facts.
Cannot find it now but this document provided many years of work that FFA and the State Federations have done and provided all the answers being asked for at present.
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Post by guest2 on Jun 21, 2019 10:17:27 GMT 10
Whilst I sort of agree with Esky in part, I reckon the association is better off trying to make a go of it for themselves with the females. There was a very good FFA document that used to be available on the Hills Football website and FNSW and FFA websites that our clubs used and was called "Women's Football Development Guide by FFA". This document provided an extensive study by FFA of the why, what and how female football ticked and what was required to make female football successful. Any other surveys, suggestions by others would mean they are not familiar with the FFA facts. Cannot find it now but this document provided many years of work that FFA and the State Federations have done and provided all the answers being asked for at present. yea making a go at it ourselves seems to be going all good so far! With so many levels of insignificant rep football in the local area and with the massive decline in numbers it is simply too late to go alone (we should of never in the first place) we need to merge with someone before gaining numbers and building up again and then going alone once the numbers build up. Imagine if the boys and boys comps were expected to cop what these girls have to cop week in week out, there would be uproar.
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Post by sweeper on Jun 21, 2019 10:32:45 GMT 10
Did anyone else get an email titled "An open letter to Female Footballers in The Hills" with the only article being a discount to ice skating and no mention of Female Footballers ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 10:40:13 GMT 10
If we are looking for a quick & easy fix for the Ladies 1 competition then let market forces do the job for you. Make it free registration for all players next year in the Ladies 1 competition & see how many extra players that pulls in. You could then gradually increase the fees over the next few years eg, year 2 offer a 50 % reduction, year 3 offer a 25% reduction, and so on.
Their is plenty of flexibility in adjusting prices in response to the changes in demand. Once a strong & viable competition is up & running you can scrap the price incentive scheme & revert to the status quo or continue with some modified discount structure. Definitely worth a try as nothing else seems to be working at the moment.
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Post by guest2 on Jun 21, 2019 11:04:05 GMT 10
I do watch a lot of female football. I’m not too sure what else Hills could have done. There’s more than enough teams. The issue is the quality. The gap between top and bottom is huge. A couple of clubs are only about winning, most are only about having a run. Reminds me of the 45s. Is it a coincidence the two clubs who are the issue in the 45s are the same issue in ladies div 1?? What Hills should of done was worry about what was best for ladies football from the start. There is not more than enough teams - compare 12s 40b/8g, 13s 32b/10g, 14 and 15 combined 51b/8g same in AAL and same in Youth, you do realise they make up 50% of the population right? football also has the highest female participation of any team sport? With such skinny team numbers there will be a huge gap in quality and blaming one or two club for it just demonstrates how far off the mark you are. This is a whole of Association problem, the decline is Assoc wide, some large clubs do not entertain or promote girls and ladies football so why should those that do promote it be labelled the problem?
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Post by lovefootball on Jun 22, 2019 9:40:27 GMT 10
The national average female participation ratio to males is 21% Capital Football and Football Tasmania both have a female participation ratio of 26% Female participation rates in Canberra are the leading region with a 30% participation rate. Participation rates for females in HFI grew by around 14% from 2017 to 2018.
One would think the logical goal should be to reach the national average as a priority and then continue to increase this ratio.
I reckon it can be done as has been shown in many other areas
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