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Post by sweetleftfoot on Aug 27, 2020 20:16:36 GMT 10
Rumor has it Castle Hill fielded a suspended player on Monday night and have had their result reversed. Its a shame that an entitled few at this club spoil it for the majority who are actually decent blokes. It was their only win for the season and they blew it. How disgraceful hopefully they finally get relegated from this competition. They have never been any good anyways! Keep fishing Kukid!
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Post by kukid on Aug 27, 2020 21:55:31 GMT 10
How disgraceful hopefully they finally get relegated from this competition. They have never been any good anyways! Keep fishing Kukid! No fishing here your results speak for themselves bottom of the table hahaha. And who doesn’t know they are going to be or meant to be suspended this is typical castle hill unable to win by being the best they have to try cheat can’t even do that properly the quicker your relegated the better bye bye castle hill
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Post by oldnwise on Aug 27, 2020 22:05:00 GMT 10
Rumor has it Castle Hill fielded a suspended player on Monday night and have had their result reversed. Its a shame that an entitled few at this club spoil it for the majority who are actually decent blokes. It was their only win for the season and they blew it. Impossible to know a player shouldn't play on a Monday night when HFI send the suspension notice for him 24 hours later on the Tuesday night... and when the Electronic Teamsheet shows him as available but other suspended players as not available. Depends on the reason for the suspension. If a red card is received, the player is automatically suspended for the next match. HFI disciplinary procedures cover this situation and not relevant when the suspension notice is received if related to a prior red card.
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Aug 27, 2020 22:16:39 GMT 10
Impossible to know a player shouldn't play on a Monday night when HFI send the suspension notice for him 24 hours later on the Tuesday night... and when the Electronic Teamsheet shows him as available but other suspended players as not available. Depends on the reason for the suspension. If a red card is received, the player is automatically suspended for the next match. HFI disciplinary procedures cover this situation and not relevant when the suspension notice is received if related to a prior red card. So show me where that's clearly outlined? I've been playing 35s in HFI since HFI started and have seen (1) blokes sit out games cos they believed they were suspended and then be told "No, your suspension starts when we at HFI say so - and they miss double the games, and (2) though Refs will never admit it publicly, blokes get red cards that are never officially reported. But again, show me where in the By-Laws it says players must self-suspend? Was Monday a public holiday at HFI by the way. Why the lazy delay?
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Aug 27, 2020 22:24:01 GMT 10
No fishing here your results speak for themselves bottom of the table hahaha. And who doesn’t know they are going to be or meant to be suspended this is typical castle hill unable to win by being the best they have to try cheat can’t even do that properly the quicker your relegated the better bye bye castle hill Kukid, you know I love you and the banter. But you're Leicester City, won it once out of the blue and think you're gold. Baulko and Rams have both embarrassed you already this season, and I'm sure there's more to come
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Post by kukid on Aug 28, 2020 6:58:52 GMT 10
No fishing here your results speak for themselves bottom of the table hahaha. And who doesn’t know they are going to be or meant to be suspended this is typical castle hill unable to win by being the best they have to try cheat can’t even do that properly the quicker your relegated the better bye bye castle hill Kukid, you know I love you and the banter. But you're Leicester City, won it once out of the blue and think you're gold. Baulko and Rams have both embarrassed you already this season, and I'm sure there's more to come We all love the banter I’d rather be Leicester City than Castle Hill United
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Post by maximusd on Aug 28, 2020 16:18:42 GMT 10
Kukid, you know I love you and the banter. But you're Leicester City, won it once out of the blue and think you're gold. Baulko and Rams have both embarrassed you already this season, and I'm sure there's more to come We all love the banter I’d rather be Leicester City than Castle Hill United Tipping the Knights will give those Green Groblins a lesson tomorrow afternoon. Wish I could be there to see it.
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Post by oldnwise on Aug 29, 2020 19:29:59 GMT 10
Depends on the reason for the suspension. If a red card is received, the player is automatically suspended for the next match. HFI disciplinary procedures cover this situation and not relevant when the suspension notice is received if related to a prior red card. So show me where that's clearly outlined? I've been playing 35s in HFI since HFI started and have seen (1) blokes sit out games cos they believed they were suspended and then be told "No, your suspension starts when we at HFI say so - and they miss double the games, and (2) though Refs will never admit it publicly, blokes get red cards that are never officially reported. But again, show me where in the By-Laws it says players must self-suspend? Was Monday a public holiday at HFI by the way. Why the lazy delay?
Your generalisation on referees not reporting red cards does not have a lot of substance to it. If the referees committee or HFI were aware of red cards not being reported the referee would be reprimanded or sanctioned. Speak to members of the GPD as I hear they are very busy at the moment. What would I know though, I'm only a referee.
HFI Grievance & Disciplinary Regulations, Section 14.3 (f). Seems straight forward.
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Aug 29, 2020 20:09:14 GMT 10
So show me where that's clearly outlined? I've been playing 35s in HFI since HFI started and have seen (1) blokes sit out games cos they believed they were suspended and then be told "No, your suspension starts when we at HFI say so - and they miss double the games, and (2) though Refs will never admit it publicly, blokes get red cards that are never officially reported. But again, show me where in the By-Laws it says players must self-suspend? Was Monday a public holiday at HFI by the way. Why the lazy delay?
Your generalisation on referees not reporting red cards does not have a lot of substance to it. If the referees committee or HFI were aware of red cards not being reported the referee would be reprimanded or sanctioned. Speak to members of the GPD as I hear they are very busy at the moment. What would I know though, I'm only a referee.
HFI Grievance & Disciplinary Regulations, Section 14.3 (f). Seems straight forward.
Why are you selectively quoting only 1 part of that #14? That part starts by confirming there should be a notice of suspension or a determination... 14. SERVING OF SUSPENSIONS 14.1 Suspensions to be served immediately (a) Subject to this section 14, any Suspension imposed by a Body shall be served immediately and apply in respect of those Football Activities listed in the Notice of Suspension or a Determination HFI didn't bother telling us the player was suspended until the day after the match had been played. But what would I know eh, I'm just a player
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Post by house on Aug 30, 2020 5:45:00 GMT 10
What part of immediately don’t you understand?
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Post by sweetleftfoot on Aug 30, 2020 8:37:32 GMT 10
What part of immediately don’t you understand? Thanks house, you've just proved the point. "... any Suspension imposed by a Body shall be served immediately..." There was no suspension when the game was played on Monday. HFI didn't suspend the player until Tuesday evening.
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Post by oldnwise on Aug 30, 2020 10:38:23 GMT 10
But what would I know eh, I'm just a player More than you did one week ago
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Post by kukid on Aug 30, 2020 11:10:38 GMT 10
What part of immediately don’t you understand? Thanks house, you've just proved the point. "... any Suspension imposed by a Body shall be served immediately..." There was no suspension when the game was played on Monday. HFI didn't suspend the player until Tuesday evening. Guys who cares you both at the bottom of the table!
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Post by blahblah on Aug 31, 2020 8:42:35 GMT 10
Sweet Left - You guys are talking about different things
14.3.f is the ruling that any red card is an automatic disqualification for that player from the next fixture (regardless of GPT / notice etc). Its there specifically for your case where the next fixture may come before the associations disciplinary meeting.
14.1 is the ruling that any further Suspension passed down is to be served immediately (i.e. for the multiple weeks or years for the gravity of the offence)
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Post by house on Sept 1, 2020 4:53:52 GMT 10
Well said blah blah
Sweet not only doesn’t understand what immediately means but has problems with “automatic”. Nobody is falling for the silly excuses, if you aren’t aware you ask the association........not hard ( before the event not after)
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