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Post by ninja on May 13, 2019 13:16:49 GMT 10
I’ve noticed on the Hills fixtures & results that rounds 8 & 9 have been listed for Youth Girls. As a parent I was told that there was going to be a split once all teams play each other once. I’m sure a news article was also on the Hills website.
Hopefully this is just an error and the competition will still be split. It is obvious from the weekend results who the top and bottom 4 will be. I can’t see the Kellyville and Rouse Hill Blue score, but even without the result they are still top.
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Post by hey on May 13, 2019 21:35:12 GMT 10
Ninja I think you will find they are splitting the Comp after round 7 into div 1 and 2. All teams take their points, hence the reason why you play all teams evenly.
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Post by crazycow on May 15, 2019 22:30:41 GMT 10
Rouse Hill Rams have stacked their team this year with several older girls and were already very strong. They should be moved to All Age Ladies. Most of the other sides are aged 14/15/16 so perhaps combine the top 4 u15s and have the bottom 3 Youth girls join u15s as a "Youth Girls 2" It would provide two more even comps and Rams would get challenged in AAL 1 or 2 (instead of winning 15-0 every week)
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Post by HappyFeet on May 16, 2019 12:58:51 GMT 10
Crazy - quite disappointing participation numbers in the female football competition this season. Do you have any idea why??
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Post by sweeper on May 16, 2019 15:54:43 GMT 10
Crazy - quite disappointing participation numbers in the female football competition this season. Do you have any idea why?? Some of that impact would be from full-time GSAP and GCL where previously the GSAP players were also able to play with their hills association team
Another consideration is the constant changes in relation to the girls competitions. As an example, the new U/12 Girls competition went to a full-side field points competition, to not having an U/12 Girls division at all at the start of the season to now having an U/12 Girls competition after regrades.
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Post by interested on May 16, 2019 16:24:10 GMT 10
No doubt the most of the issue is GSAP & GCL as Sweeper mentions. Why we need a GCL comp is beyond me. Leave these girls in there Club sides to boost this comp and that will drive numbers higher. With poor participation and blow out scores across the girls comp it only creates a bad image and this flows on to less players in coming season.
One way out is fro FNSW to do the right thing and merge the Blacktown/Granville conference league with Hills and forma super Girls/Ladies competition. This is the best way forward to grow the game IMO
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Post by house on May 16, 2019 21:19:45 GMT 10
Rouse Hill Rams have stacked their team this year with several older girls and were already very strong. They should be moved to All Age Ladies. Most of the other sides are aged 14/15/16 so perhaps combine the top 4 u15s and have the bottom 3 Youth girls join u15s as a "Youth Girls 2" It would provide two more even comps and Rams would get challenged in AAL 1 or 2 (instead of winning 15-0 every week) Worst post of the year. We have a under 15s Comp so what youth teams have 14s in it. If there are 14 year olds they should have played 15s. Rouse hill stacked their team? ?? they graded like every other club does. Rouse Hill Rams top team has majority 16 year olds and 1 x 15 year old. These girls have every right to play the right age group. Instead you want them to get smashed (and they would) in AAL 1. And finally the 14 and 15 year olds in the 15s Comp will not play 16/17 and 18 year olds. Wait for the split comps and move on.
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Post by crazycow on May 17, 2019 16:25:55 GMT 10
I have watched a lot of Ladies football in the Hills comp and seen the diminishing numbers over the past 3 years. It is always worse in the u15-u19 ages as the girls dont have the same level of fun as they did in younger years AND if one leaves, they usually take several friends with them. No doubt GSAP / GCL has had an impact but so has bad coaching, high fees, poor fields / availability to train and many other factors. Uneven competition is a major issue why whole teams fold. No-one wants to be in a comp where half their friends have never played before but love the social, then come up against a team like RAMS who puts 15 goals past them without trying. Many teams copped it in 2018 and 2017 and so far this year they are even stronger.
The reason there are so many 14s / 15s in the Youth girls teams is to make up the numbers as there isn't enough 16s/17s/18s for a team (Jobs, boyfriends, Study, etc) - most dont want to play u15s or have been asked to play up so a club can field a team in the Youth Girls.
Having watched most of the games this season, I can confidently state that the top 4 in u15 Girlz (Rams, Kolts, Winsto and Knights) are just as strong or stronger than YG1 bottom 3 (Baulkho / NR / CHU Blue)
Rather than split the YG1 into 2 groups of 4 where everyone plays each other heaps of times and all 4 qualify for finals, why not combine? The argument would be that YG1 are up to u18s and the u15s are too young / small but other than RAMS, the teams in YG1 are mostly 14/15/16 so its a level playing field.
As for RAMS moving to AAL - no-one said it had to be Div 1, but if we have girls playing for the Matildas at 15 and 16, these girls should want a challenge and want to test their skills against more experienced players - or is all about the win?
RAMS are 43-0 so far (so an average of 11-0), they even beat their closest rivals 6-0, so clearly you just want them to win another trophy. I guess after next year they will be the only team left, so there wont be any competition!
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Post by anolsey on May 17, 2019 17:34:50 GMT 10
Regardless of who or how they are winning, they have a right to play in their age group (trophy hunting or not). Same happens in 35/45 men’s where people are complaining about lop-sided opposition/results. You can ask them, but doesn’t mean they have to go outside their age group! This is coming from a Dad who’s 14 y.o daughter is playing in AAL/2 to make up numbers - and has been getting hammered!
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Post by crazycow on May 17, 2019 21:07:28 GMT 10
No argument from me on that score, everyone has a right to play in their own age group, but the clubs, coaches and association have a responsibility to the broader game and people have been asking why numbers have been dropping. Governance is a a major issue in our sport and the overall good of the ladies game should be more important than keeping one team happy. My own team got promoted this year and whilst we wont win much, we will improve heaps and be better for the challenge.
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Post by guest2 on May 18, 2019 22:31:16 GMT 10
One way out is fro FNSW to do the right thing and merge the Blacktown/Granville conference league with Hills and forma super Girls/Ladies competition. This is the best way forward to grow the game IMO I agree 100% that it is the best way forward and would be great for all concerned but nothing to do with FNSW, HFA need to do it and when they were approached a couple of years ago they said no they wanted to run their own comps.
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Post by ange on May 19, 2019 14:05:01 GMT 10
One way out is fro FNSW to do the right thing and merge the Blacktown/Granville conference league with Hills and forma super Girls/Ladies competition. This is the best way forward to grow the game IMO I agree 100% that it is the best way forward and would be great for all concerned but nothing to do with FNSW, HFA need to do it and when they were approached a couple of years ago they said no they wanted to run their own comps. Couldn't agree more. This needs to be done for the ladies AND girls comps. Ladies Division 1 is now down to 4 teams! If Hills doesn't combine with Blacktown/Granville or NWWSFA it will soon be the end of meaningful football for girls in the Hills. Are there any directors who are passionate about girls football? Make it happen.
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Post by crazycow on Jul 29, 2019 16:47:47 GMT 10
With all the dramas in AAL1 / 2 dominating the female football Town Hall meeting last week, some people may not have noticed the continuing disparity in Youth Girls. The RAMS YG1 team that refused (or wasn't forced by HFI) to move up to AAL has continued to win 15-0 every week and has now had 3 weeks in a row when teams have forfeited against them. Is this a coincidence or a protest? Will nearest rivals Castle Hill make it 4 ina row this week?
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Post by sweeper on Jul 29, 2019 18:01:49 GMT 10
That is one heck of a for and against
Do the Youth Girls get called up to help out the AA Ladies teams as extra subs ? That would be a good way to see how they cope with the higher standard.
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Post by thefootballbandit on Jul 29, 2019 19:47:02 GMT 10
I’m not sure if forcing 15 year old girls into ladies competitions is the right thing to do.
Maybe the Rams should have moved these players into the GCL program instead of dominating the local competition?
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