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Post by HappyFeet on Aug 21, 2018 13:10:17 GMT 10
Good work RedCard - sounds like some clarity needs to be added to the bylaws.
So from this thread, it appears that two referee mistakes have led to two appeals.
Does that not open up a can of worms for more appeals to be lodged for other referee mistakes - they are human and mistakes will be made but their decisions should also be respected. I thought the referee has full authority once the match is underway.
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Post by dreamgoal on Aug 21, 2018 13:26:50 GMT 10
Good work RedCard - sounds like some clarity needs to be added to the bylaws. So from this thread, it appears that two referee mistakes have led to two appeals. Does that not open up a can of worms for more appeals to be lodged for other referee mistakes - they are human and mistakes will be made but their decisions should also be respected. I thought the referee has full authority once the match is underway. Good Question Happyfeet... There are two things here, judgement calls or referee errors in a game that we both know happen and they are considered a factor of the game. The second point is where there are "Obvious Errors in Law" this is a technical point where the referee makes a decision that contravenes the LOTG, such as the AA4M game which had the penalties retaken and potentially the 35/3L game which is still to be determined by the association as to whether the retake will happen.
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RedCard
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Referees are always just misunderstood...
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Post by RedCard on Aug 21, 2018 16:22:29 GMT 10
Good question HappyFeet - as stated above by dreamgoal, there are 2 instances - where a referee makes an interpretation and these happen all time as the LOTG can be interpreted by judgement call. Eg. a hand ball - is where a ball is handled deliberately by a player (other than a goal keeper within their penalty area). It is up to the referee to determine whether or not the player handled the ball deliberately... This may differ from referee to referee...
In the event of an obvious error in law - this is where there is a specific instruction that is not followed or has been changed by the referee. Eg. During KFTPM - it specifically states that "an eligible player may change places with the goalkeeper" - if this is not allowed to happen, then this is an obvious error in law...
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Post by HappyFeet on Aug 21, 2018 17:44:29 GMT 10
Mmmm RedCard so does that mean if a referee makes an error, as an example in awarding a direct free kick as opposed to an indirect free kick or vice versa or perhaps allows a corner kick to be taken from the wrong spot and both lead to a winning goal, that can now be opened up to an appeal process?
As I mentioned I think this will open up a can of worms.
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Post by sweeper on Aug 22, 2018 8:06:48 GMT 10
Mmmm RedCard so does that mean if a referee makes an error, as an example in awarding a direct free kick as opposed to an indirect free kick or vice versa or perhaps allows a corner kick to be taken from the wrong spot and both lead to a winning goal, that can now be opened up to an appeal process? As I mentioned I think this will open up a can of worms. I believe that what RedCard is trying to say is that the existing rules apply during the game in that if a direct free kick is awarded instead of an indirect free kick then you are not able to appeal after the game as it is open to the referee's interpretation.
In the case of the penalty shootout, there is a procedure or law that needs to be followed. If there is an error in this procedure or law then the teams are able to appeal. Similar to the situation where teams are able to appeal if the opposition field an ineligible/suspended player as the procedure or law is that only eligible players are allowed to play.
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RedCard
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Referees are always just misunderstood...
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Post by RedCard on Aug 22, 2018 10:56:12 GMT 10
Just as an example - I was part of a penalty shootout. Both teams had taken 4 kicks each and the score at the time was 4-4... My team was first to kick and we took our 5th kick and missed and the referee at the time blew full time and awarded the game to the opposition team...
We appealed to FNSW and 2 weeks later we turned up - the other team took 1 kick and scored and the game was then awarded to them...
The process for penalties was not followed at the time, therefore this needed to be played out in accordance with the Laws...
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