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Post by HappyFeet on Nov 27, 2019 22:07:24 GMT 10
Have heard recently that another Director has resigned.
That is five directors who have resigned in less than 3 years to resign outside of the normal director retirement protocols which could mean something is terribly wrong!!
Not sure why this is not published so all members of clubs are informed.
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Post by craig4ster on Nov 28, 2019 9:44:44 GMT 10
Love me or hate me, hear me out.
I think the reality is that a board position at any sporting organisation is a thankless gig. Many hours spent away from your family, many hours spent dealing with issues that in reality are not that important.
No matter what decision the boards make, they are going to be crucified by elements of the community that disagree. It’s essentially a mini government. Our pollies get slammed day in day out!
There’s a high turnover at Hills. There’s a high turnover at Blacktown. There’s a high turnover within Our clubs. The list goes on...Good people go in, get torn to shreds then get spat out the other end a ruined man or woman. The cycle continues.
The positive thing is now that there’s a resignation, it opens up a spot for all of you neysayers to go and fix it. You seem to have all of the solutions. I wish you luck. Truely, I do. I want nothing more than to see our amazing sport prosper.
Put your money where your mouth is.
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Post by blahblah on Nov 28, 2019 10:04:30 GMT 10
Love me or hate me, hear me out. I think the reality is that a board position at any sporting organisation is a thankless gig. Many hours spent away from your family, many hours spent dealing with issues that in reality are not that important. No matter what decision the boards make, they are going to be crucified by elements of the community that disagree. It’s essentially a mini government. Our pollies get slammed day in day out! There’s a high turnover at Hills. There’s a high turnover at Blacktown. There’s a high turnover within Our clubs. The list goes on...Good people go in, get torn to shreds then get spat out the other end a ruined man or woman. The cycle continues. The positive thing is now that there’s a resignation, it opens up a spot for all of you neysayers to go and fix it. You seem to have all of the solutions. I wish you luck. Truely, I do. I want nothing more than to see our amazing sport prosper. Put your money where your mouth is. This.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 20:28:08 GMT 10
Love me or hate me, hear me out. I think the reality is that a board position at any sporting organisation is a thankless gig. Many hours spent away from your family, many hours spent dealing with issues that in reality are not that important. No matter what decision the boards make, they are going to be crucified by elements of the community that disagree. It’s essentially a mini government. Our pollies get slammed day in day out! There’s a high turnover at Hills. There’s a high turnover at Blacktown. There’s a high turnover within Our clubs. The list goes on...Good people go in, get torn to shreds then get spat out the other end a ruined man or woman. The cycle continues. The positive thing is now that there’s a resignation, it opens up a spot for all of you neysayers to go and fix it. You seem to have all of the solutions. I wish you luck. Truely, I do. I want nothing more than to see our amazing sport prosper. Put your money where your mouth is. Craig baby......I never thought I would like a post of yours.... but this is very empathetic......well done. As someone who has been in numerous administrative positions over a long period of time I congratulate you. We should be making things easier for people who step forward to fill these positions and not crucifying them. Otherwise nobody will be putting their hand up to fill any position.
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Post by HappyFeet on Nov 30, 2019 15:14:26 GMT 10
Some rather odd comments on here in my opinion pointing blame in one direction.
I reckon the governance process is:
All sports have governing bodies, usually state based with regional associations and underpinning that is affiliated clubs.
Government agencies have established model constitutions which are designed to provide the overarching governance document which provides the ability for a board and or committee to interact with and manage business with its members.
All model sporting constitutions provides a mechanism for the association to develop regulations / bylaws with its members and between the constitution and regulations / bylaws provides the governance framework to manage the affairs of the association.
And if business comes up that is not already covered within the constitution and regulations / bylaws, motions need to be put on the agenda at General Meetings for the members to review, discuss, debate and vote.
Therefore, the process for governance is Constitution - then members input to Regulations / Bylaws - then managing other business matters via General Meetings with Members debating and voting on decisions.
Rather simple process really and things usually only turn sour when this mandated process is not followed which is all mandated in organisations constitutions.
One can’t help but think something is not working as it should when there is a high level of turnover with elected directors.
Hopefully this is sorted out for the benefit of the clubs and players.
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Post by Raymond Reddington on Nov 30, 2019 21:15:37 GMT 10
Some rather odd comments on here in my opinion pointing blame in one direction. I reckon the governance process is: All sports have governing bodies, usually state based with regional associations and underpinning that is affiliated clubs. Government agencies have established model constitutions which are designed to provide the overarching governance document which provides the ability for a board and or committee to interact with and manage business with its members. All model sporting constitutions provides a mechanism for the association to develop regulations / bylaws with its members and between the constitution and regulations / bylaws provides the governance framework to manage the affairs of the association. And if business comes up that is not already covered within the constitution and regulations / bylaws, motions need to be put on the agenda at General Meetings for the members to review, discuss, debate and vote. Therefore, the process for governance is Constitution - then members input to Regulations / Bylaws - then managing other business matters via General Meetings with Members debating and voting on decisions. Rather simple process really and things usually only turn sour when this mandated process is not followed which is all mandated in organisations constitutions. One can’t help but think something is not working as it should when there is a high level of turnover with elected directors. Hopefully this is sorted out for the benefit of the clubs and players. Could’ve said it any better myself. Whilst I don’t sit on a club board I do however provide advice to a number of clubs. Happyfeet is certainly correct with his comments, being a board member most of the hard work is laid out in the constitution for one to refer to. Where things go pear shape is when individuals don’t understand what the constitution is and why it is in place. I’ve had my fair share of battles with regards to the constitution and success depends also on how one delivers their message as some delegates or pot plants as I like to call them haven’t a clue as to the process. Put it this way I win far far more than I lose.
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Post by HappyFeet on Dec 6, 2019 19:21:27 GMT 10
Well apparently another Director has resigned from the Board, in addition from the above according to discussion around the local watering hole tonight. That would be two directors who have walked in the last couple of weeks.
Would love to hear the views of Craig4ster? Opportunity presents itself.........
Raymond - it would appear the time is ideal for you to make your leap of faith.
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Post by craig4ster on Dec 6, 2019 20:01:18 GMT 10
My view is that if you’re at the pub on a Friday night and your only topic of conversation is about if board members may or may not have resigned, then you probably need to reconsider your life.
I don’t know. I heard one resigned a few weeks back as his personal life took over.
I also might be throwing my name in the ring now that there’s a few openings.
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Post by dreamgoal on Dec 7, 2019 12:12:07 GMT 10
My view is that if you’re at the pub on a Friday night and your only topic of conversation is about if board members may or may not have resigned, then you probably need to reconsider your life. I don’t know. I heard one resigned a few weeks back as his personal life took over. I also might be throwing my name in the ring now that there’s a few openings. WOW!! You would be a great addition to the current board Crai4ster.... Talk about a great fit...😜
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Post by HappyFeet on Dec 7, 2019 13:22:14 GMT 10
We certainly weren't wasting any oxygen discussing it 4ster but a group next to us certainly were. Was doing the Friday night ritual of watching the A League in football season. One would think news of director resignations would be published on the website so people are informed.
I reckon dreamgoal may be on to something about a good addition and great fit. The more good people wanting to get involved the better.
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Post by craig4ster on Dec 8, 2019 13:22:44 GMT 10
Or maybe it is just a rumour? Like 95% of the topics discussed around the grounds.
Dreamy, I’ll nominate if you do. Let’s put our differences aside and make this a whole lot better. What are your top 5 things you’d like to change?
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Post by HappyFeet on Dec 10, 2019 20:00:43 GMT 10
4ster - I am not dreamy but will provide my personal view of what change I think would be beneficial and in accordance with the appropriate governance requirements.
In no particular order,
Establishing Sub-committees via the Delegation of Instruments to manage as a minimum - Refereeing, Judiciary, Discipline, Appeals, Coaching & Development, Competitions, Females, Juniors and Seniors. Minutes of Meetings - Annual General Meetings, Special and General Meetings and Board Meeting Minutes to be provided to all members and placed on the associations website to provide full transparency. Meetings to be conducted as per the constitution, i.e. each member club to have two delegates able to attend meetings to discuss, debate and vote on motions put forward. This is a vital process in the association's management. The board to act on behalf of the members as per the objects of the association, and therefore a decision made at a General Meeting should be supported and adopted. Clear Communication and consultation.
Will let dreamy add any more... hope that helps 4ster and am sure you will agree.
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Post by dreamgoal on Dec 11, 2019 20:01:36 GMT 10
Or maybe it is just a rumour? Like 95% of the topics discussed around the grounds. Dreamy, I’ll nominate if you do. Let’s put our differences aside and make this a whole lot better. What are your top 5 things you’d like to change? Mr. 4ster, Thinking I might take you up on the deal, here is my plans for running my campaign - 1. Hold the current board accountable for the current constitution and adherence to the Bylaws. 2. Listen to the Clubs and support the members in line with the constitution to ensure I am representing the best interest of the bulk of grassroots players. 3. Hold the current board accountable for the current constitution and adherence to the Bylaws. 4. Listen to the Clubs and support the members in line with the constitution to ensure I am representing the best interest of the bulk of grassroots players 5. Hold the current board accountable for the current constitution and adherence to the Bylaws. 6. Listen to the Clubs and support the members in line with the constitution to ensure I am representing the best interest of the bulk of grassroots players. 7. Hold the current board accountable for the current constitution and adherence to the Bylaws. 8. Listen to the Clubs and support the members in line with the constitution to ensure I am representing the best interest of the bulk of grassroots players You get the drift, quite simple really!!
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Post by HappyFeet on Dec 13, 2019 15:34:11 GMT 10
Well according to the Hills Football website, that other Director that was mentioned to have resigned has now been removed from the website and there has also been a change of the Chairman role.
So that is six Directors in a little over two years who have resigned from the board outside of the normal retirement sequence, which is very abnormal in my opinion.
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Post by dreamgoal on Dec 13, 2019 18:33:24 GMT 10
Well according to the Hills Football website, that other Director that was mentioned to have resigned has now been removed from the website and there has also been a change of the Chairman role. So that is six Directors in a little over two years who have resigned from the board outside of the normal retirement sequence, which is very abnormal in my opinion. WOW!! That’s really concerning!! Does not look like a board to take Hills football into the future with any confidence or direction!! Where is Mr. 4Ster when you really need him!!
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